31.3.02 vylezla dvojka A. Toloch a R. lienerth novou cestu na K0 v rameni Kriváně. Cesta má pět délek a velmi přiléhavý název Lego. Klasifikace je V+, ve čtyřech délkách, jedna je lehčí za IV. Rozhodně zajímavé zimní lezení. Nicméně tímto nám zřejmě zima skončila, pokud se ještě neochladí.
Nevim co je "TRI" k smichu, myslim, ze je to solidni pocin. Ten nakres bych si klidne stahnul.
Zapsal: Dan, 08:26:42 04.04.2002
Severni stena Krivane
Drahy Dane podivej se do kalendare.Cha,cha,cha.
Zapsal: TRI, 10:12:19 04.04.2002
Severni stena Krivane
Nevim to presne, ale zimni sezona v Tatrach je asi od Prosince do Kvetna.
Zapsal: Dan, 10:55:25 04.04.2002
nie ej nahodou lezenie na krivani zakazane?
Zapsal: robo, 11:03:04 04.04.2002
"TRI" je asi zblblej z umele steny, mysli si, ze kdyz tam ma cely rok konstanich 20 stupnu, tak je tomu stejne i na jinych "stenach"....:)
Zapsal: , 14:48:06 04.04.2002
"TRI" je asi zblblej z umele steny, mysli si, ze kdyz tam ma cely rok konstanich 20 stupnu, tak je tomu stejne i na jinych "stenach"....:)
Zapsal: , 14:53:27 04.04.2002
Severni stena Krivane
Zblbej asi jsem, ale nejsou hory na svete kde se zima hodnoti podle okamzitych klimatickych podminek.Pokud to chcete delat , tak budeme brzy delat zimni prelezy cest v cervenci.Buh ochranuj ty co bez rozmyslu po vas budou chtit cestu opakovat.
Zapsal: TRI, 15:17:57 04.04.2002
Zimní sezóna v Tatrách
Nevíte někdo jak to teda doopravdy je s tou oficiální zimní sezónou v Tatrách? (od kdy do kdy)
Re: Tri - to je jasný že podmínky strašně závisej na momentálnim počasí, ale jestli se ti teď zdálo o velikonocich poměrně teplo tak se nenech mýlit, shodou okolností jsem taky zrovna lezl v Tatrách a letní lezení to teda nebylo :-)
Mohu snad byt i kreten , ale to ani v sebemensim nezmeni to ze zima konci prvnim jarnim dnem.To platilo a bude platit.A ma to svoje opodstatneni, za par let nikdo nebude patrat po tom jake bylo v tu ci onu dobu pocasi.Krivan je objektivne nebezpecna hora a kdo tam byl tak vi proc.Prosim vas nepokousejte se budoucim lezcum vytvaret fiktivni iluze.Zkuste se podivat do pruvodce Arno Puskase a snad vse pochopite , pokud nechcete zustat na symbolickym cintorinu jako priklad lidske samolibosti.
Zapsal: TRI, 20:56:58 04.04.2002
Re: TRI
Hele jestli ti končí zima prvním jarním dnem tak se tam do toho jdi podívat v lezečkách a v elesťákách a možná pochopíš kdy končí zima v horách....
Vivat Zoban
No dalk jsem to jen jako info a ona hned diskuse. Oficialne zimni sezona konci 21. 3. a basta, nicmene znaly podminek vedi, ze vzstupz v yimnich podminkach se casto daji lezt jeste na konci dubna.
Co se tyce Krivane a povoleni lezeni, zalezi na pristupu, nebot Nefcerka je skutecne zavrena a proto to dale nerozvadejme. Znali vedi opet sve.
PS: pro TRI / v lezeckach do toho rozhodne nechod, na tech drnech by jsi asi porodil i kdyby nebyly zmrzle.....
Zapsal: Zoban, 10:52:37 05.04.2002
Severni stena Krivane
Drahy Zobane,vazim si toho ze jsi pochopil kdy zacina a konci zimni lezeni.A pokud se nekdy nekde potkame v horach tak dam o sobe vedet, prosim te nemusis se omlouvat.
Zapsal: TRI, 20:35:36 05.04.2002
RE: Severni stena Krivane
Neviem hosi ale zijem pod krivanom pomerne blizsko a pokial si niekto mysli ze tu zima konci uz vo februari jak v PRAHE tak je na omyle
Zapsal: kopec, 18:49:40 06.04.2002
Severni stena Krivane
Vrat se do salase KOPEC.
Zapsal: Lupen, 20:22:12 06.04.2002
Telegraficky
"Vo februari", tedy v unoru, nekonci zima ani v Praze! -- stop -- Zima tu konci 20.3. v 23:59:59. --stop -- Z Prahy posila pod Krivan Prazak. --stop--.
Zapsal: Prazak, 20:54:02 06.04.2002
...blbečci...
Zapsal: , 02:53:46 07.04.2002
Zima v Tatrach
Vratil som sa z Dumbiera, kde sme liezli patky v severnej stene a velmi sa bavim na prispevkoch niektorych individui. Mily TRI tvoja zivotnost bez maciek a zbrani by skoncila uz len pri nastupe pod stenu o samotnom lezeni ani nehovorim. Skoti definuju zimne lezenie bez ohladu na datum asi takto: "Ide to lepsie so zbranami a s mackami ako bez nich." Odporucam pochybovacom ist vyliezt teraz nieco do Tatier. Pokial by mali zimny lezci zaujem o sprievodcu severnej steny dumbiera tak mailujte. Bresto
Pletes si lezeni s vysokohorskou turistikou Bresto.Zkus sever Maleho Kezmarskeho.
Zapsal: , 00:36:41 09.04.2002
Tatry su aj Nizke
Clovece nepodpisany, ak si niekedy bol pozriet na severe Dumbiera a stale to nazyvas vysokohorskou turistikou, tak musis byt fakt namakany. Prechadzat sa v hakovackach za A3, to uz chce skuseneho "turistu" :))
Některé komentáře by chtělo vidat knižně! Myslim, že by strčily do kapsi i tak známého Ivana Bajo! Fakt jsem se dobře pobavil. Tolik povyku kvůli tomu kdy je poslední zimní a kdy první jarní den, to se fakt tak často nevidí!
Zapsal: David, 09:03:49 10.04.2002
hmmm2...
No nevim mel jsem za to ze lezeni je tolerantni sport v nemz plati zij a nechej zit, ale nejak si osledni dobou nejsem jisty jestli toto kredo stale plati.
Nekteri jedinci hovori o Dumbieru jako o turistice, aniz vedi o tom ze se tam jiz nekolik let leze. cesty nejsou sice prilis dlouhe. ale charakterove by se dalo prirovnat jejich charakter k zimnimu Skotsku.
Nevim nevim, ale zajimalo by mne jestli je tohle specifikum u nas, nebo i jinde ve svete. protoze pak bych radeji odjel lizt treba na Mars.
Zapsal: zoban, 09:30:21 11.04.2002
re hm.
"Co se tyce Krivane a povoleni lezeni, zalezi na pristupu, nebot Nefcerka je skutecne zavrena a proto to dale nerozvadejme. Znali vedi opet sve"
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a z jiného soudku: na www.horosvaz.cz si můžete přečíst o tom, že je vydáno rozhodnutí o zákazu lezení na značné části Křížového vrchu z důvodu hnízdění ptactva. Vidím to naprosto pesimisticky, první slunečnej vejkend tam bude našviháno lidma a eventuelní nejmělej ochranář bude důrazně poslán do prdele. Následně bude uzavřen Křížovej vrch kompletně. Prostě horolezci a lezci jako celek pro nikoho nejsme seriozní partner.
Jinak gratuluji k pěknému výkonu.
Za což se omlouvám myslel jsem nástup. nefcerka je chráněná kvůli spodnímu prahu, pokud se nastoupí přes Škáru a jde se pod stěnou, obvzvláště v zimním období není problém. Pokud ho někdo nechce uměle vytvářet... Což je věcí jinou...
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