Tak aby bylo tedy jasno. Lom Amerika je ze statu báňské zákona označen jako lom "nevytěžený". Takto jsou označeny prakticky všechny lomy, které nemají pouze určitou omezenou maximální výšku patra a sklon. Třeba Alkazar je O.K., ale Tomáškárna je v pr..., neboť je převislá. Naštěstí o lezení tam baňaři neví.
Co ovšem znamená, je-li lom označený jako "nevytěžený". Jednoduše to, že do něj nesmí osoba neproškolená na báňské přepisy, což jsme prakticky všichni. Zákon dále ukládá majiteli lomu, což je v tomto případě firma Lomy Mořina, zajistit objekt tak, aby do něj osoba neproškolená neměla přístup. Kdysy se v případě Ameriky uvažovalo i o nepřetržité hlídací službě, ale z finančních důvodů se do toho upustilo. Lomy Mořina v minulosti platily děsivé pokuty za to, že objekt nebyl dostatečně zajištěn proti vniknutí a je tedy logické, že se snaží situaci ze svého pohledu vyřešit. Veškeré aktivity v oblasti jsou v podstatě nezákonné, tedy i lezení a osazování nýtů, ačkoli vím, kdo to dělá.
Jedinou možností, jak si sjednat vyjímku ke vstupu, je absolvovat školení na Báňské předpisy, což mám za sebou a opravňuje mě to ke vstupu do relativně lezecky perspektivního Mexika (Gotická štola).
Ochrana přírody v případě Ameriky nehraje roli, jiní je to u lomů v NPR Kaplštejn (malá Amerika apod.), kde se střetáváme jak baňaři, tak s ochranáři.
Zdar Petr
Zapsal: Petr Resch, 09:50:51 29.08.2002
Amen
Amen!...
Zapsal: , 10:58:44 29.08.2002
Re. Petr Resch
Jak, kde a za kolik je možno získat proškolení z báňských předpisů?
Dík předem.
A není to podle Báňského zákona tak, že do dolů a lomů nesmí nikdo jiný, než ten co tam má co dělat pracovně? Myslím, že s tímhle mají potíže i jeskyňáři při průzkumech stěn po odstřelech.
Kubovi Turkovi - je to, jak jsem napsal a řekl, mimochodem jeskyně jsme byl mapovat v Čerťákách i po odstřelu
Lukovi - průvodce neexistuje, musel by ses informovat u autorů, jejichž jména nezveřejním, nejsem si totiž jist, že by o to stáli vzhledem k tomu, že činnost je tu fakt zakázána. Pokud se někdy potkáme, rád ti na ně dám kontakt
Ondrovi - já jsem si školení dělal přes bezpečnostního technika pana Karla Fouse z Lomů Mořina, tel. 0311-672343, 672221, tehdy mi šlo o povelení lezení v Mexiku. Prosím, neidvolávejte se na mě, asi by neměli přílišnou radost z toho, že roztrubuju, jak je snadné se do dané lokality dostat. Taky je docela dobře možné, že už to dneska tak jednoduché nebude, já jsem to asi měl jednodušší vzhledem k funkci správce skal v NPR Karlštejn a vzhledem k předsednictví v HO Beroun.
Zdar Petr
Zapsal: Petr Resch, 09:38:23 02.09.2002
Dík
Děkuju Petrovi za odpověd. Zvážím zda má pro mě tohle školení význam, ale vzhledem k tomu, že nezaástávám žádnou z podobných funkcí - mám problem.
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