Proboha, k čemu takto napsaný článek? Je o všem a dohromady o ničem. Nechtěl bych aby diskuze tady byla mlácením prázdné slámy, je to snad jediné místo na cesko-slovenských lezeckých webech kde se muzu i neco dovedet. Navíc článek není původní,
stejný je na www.climber.cz. Nejde o grafomanii?
Hele Pavle, já chápu, že ty jsi určitě dlouholetej zkušenej pískař a tyhle články ti nic novýho do života nepřinesou. Tim se snad nechci dotknout tvého lezeckého smyšlení, ale pochop, že pro mě - pro člověka, pro kterýho je písek další meta, je takovejhle článek jako stvořenej.
Ne snad, že by plnil přísně informativní úlohu, ale prostě zbourá nějaký mýty který o písku znám. Taky se něco dozvím a budu vědět na co si dát bacha. Takže nehaň.
A mimochodem, už v prvním díle byl odkaz na Climbera, tak klídek. Měj se.
Abych predesel pripadnym slovnim prestrelkam pod timto clankem, predesilam, ze tento clanek, podobne jako i posledni treti dil mel David napsany uz drive, nez se rozjela silena diskuze pod prvnim dilem. Je mi jasne ze sem by se hodila vice, ale doufam ze jste si sve vasne jiz vybili a tak prosim uz ne vice. Trochu jsem tedy vahal jestli tento dil take uverejnit, ale myslim ze je opet vyborne ctivy a tak by bylo skoda nechat ho v supliku. Radeji jsem ale uverejnil uz i treti dil z Davidova cyklu, pro ty, kdo jsou jako Pavel a takovyto clanek jim nestaci. Kdo vi, zda se ale takovym lidem da zavdecit. No ale mozna jste na spatne adrese a mozna bude lepsi zkusit treba treba server www.dama.cz :).
No ano, serial vychazi i na serveru www.climber.cz, jeho autor ho uverejnuje na obou serverech. Fotky jsou ale vsude jine, takze urcite stoji za to zkouknout obe varianty.
A dobře si udělal (žes je uveřejnil zároveň). Sice sme se už trochu vybouřili, ale co kdyby náhodou :-)
A Pavle, mě nepříjde zbytečnej. I když v něm sice nenajdu pro sebe nic novýho, můžu předpokládat, že třeba bude užitečnej někomu jinýmu.
A navíc větička o nemoudrosti zápolení s nějakým spárařem mi dokonce přišla dost ftipná (ale to možná jen proto, že sem jich pár viděl naživo - dokonce sem jedno léto podnikl krajně neúspěšný pokus se k nim přiřadit - teda jako naučit se spáry, takže sem ten rok strávil v Ádru víc víkendů než předtím a potom za celou dobu co lezu. a výsledek se brzy dostavil - zlomil sem si nohu a bylo po trénování).
Zapsal: Tomáš F, 13:05:22 30.04.2002
Ad maglajs
Jen drobná poznámka. Koukne-li se kdokoli do jakéhokoli průvodce, uvidí tam chlapa s pytlem maglajzu buď na titulní straně, nebo i na fotkách uvnitř. (Tisá, Labák, etc. snad i Sušky)
A tady se rozpoutala debata, že maglajzovat to jo, ale jen od VIIIb atp. Proč? Co bych si nevzal pytel do šestkový plotny v Tisý? Prostě sem se rozhodl, že ho tam potřebuju, protože je to vopocený a basta. Mám snad na to snad menší nárok než ten, kdo leze za devět?
Drahý Papouši,
stejně je jako na jiném materiálu neetické stoupat na nejty či borháky, je neetické užívat na písku maglajs. Když uvidím stát nějakýho borce na obálce Montany na nejtu, taky si na něj nestoupnu, ale řeknu si, že ten borec je vůl. Howgh...
Hele, Jirko, sice chapu cos tím chtěl říct a teda místy souhlas, ale: pH 5 není dryák.
Kyselina glutaminová neexistuje, buď kyselina glutamová nebo glutamin.
Jak kyselina asparagová tak glutamová jsou aminokyseliny. Tohle slovo už jistě znáte z humusných nápojů... Mléčná se nám vylučuje do svalů když moc usilujeme a močová je na vylučování dusíku z těla.
Neodvažuji se tady odhadovat, jaké z uvedených látek se zneutralizují atp. je to poměrně složité, ale všechny uvedené kyseliny se řadí do slabých organických, pokud mi paměť slouží. Takže klídek, hombre... (Sorry pokud jsou tu ještě nepřesnosti)
Zapsal: Ivucha, 11:49:04 02.05.2002
Kyselost potu - komentar
Souhlasim s Ivuchou. Kdyby byl pot takový dryják jak ho líčí JirkaS, spíš by slezla kůže, něž se rozpustila skála. Jo a vápenec by pod rukama šuměl. Nejsme přece Vetřelci... Takže ještě jednou klídek ...
Zapsal: Zdenek, 12:37:55 07.05.2002
Lezci jsou Vetrelci
Nejsem chemik, ale slozeni zkusebniho roztoku jsem si z prstu nevycucal. Je to podle normy, jak se zkousi odolnost materialu vuci potu.
Zkus se podivat zblizka na chyty casto lezenych cest. Jsme bohuzel vetrelci a skaly nicime. Osobne se domnivam, ze ti, kteri nemaji vysusene ruce magneziem skodi skale vice.
Zapsal: JirkaS, 13:35:49 07.05.2002
PS
Voda z kohoutku ma pH kolem 5,4. Ta co prsi je na tom podobne. Takze by uz byly skaly rozpustene.... ..to jen tak. Nicmene lepsi maglajz nez pot.
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